WHO press conference on coronavirus disease (COVID-19) - 4 November 2021

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WHO regular press briefing on COVID-19, 4 November 2021
WHO Team
Department of Communications (DCO)

Transcript


00:00:34

TJ           Hello, everyone, from Geneva, from WHO Headquarters. My name is Tarik Jasarevic and I welcome you to the regular COVID-19 press conference. I will introduce you to the speakers who are here with us today. With us are Dr Tedros, WHO Director-General, Dr Maria Van Kerkhove, Technical Lead, COVID-19, Dr Mike Ryan, who's Executive Director of the HWO Programme of Emergencies, Dr Soumya Swaminathan, WHO Chief Scientist, Dr Bruce Aylward, Senior Advisor to the Director-General and the Lead on the ACT Accelerator.

We also have with us Dr Rogerio Gaspar, who's the Director of Regulation and Prequalification. Also with us is Dr Olivio Bedrasco, who is Unit Head, Country Simulation Exercises and Reviews. We also have the Legal Council, Derek Walton online.

There is also a special guest today, mentioned in our media advisory, whom Dr Tedros will specifically introduce in his opening remarks. For journalists who are online, please click raise hand so you can get in line to ask a question and if possible ask only one so we can get as many as possible.

As always, this press briefing has simultaneous interpretation in six UN languages plus Portuguese and Hindi so you can use those languages to ask your question. With that I'll give the floor to Dr Tedros for opening remarks.

00:02:15

TAG        Thank you. Thank you, Tarik, and welcome. Good morning, good afternoon and good evening. 22 months since the first cases of COVID-19 were reported and almost a year since the first vaccines were approved reported cases and deaths from COVID-19 are increasing again.

More than five million deaths have now been reported and we know the real number is higher. We're still losing more than 50,000 of our sisters and brothers every week. Last week 56 countries from all regions reported an increase in deaths from COVID-19 of more than 10%.

We hear reports from many countries about lack of ICU beds, lack of supplies, overwhelmed health workers and hospitals deferring other needed procedures. Let me be very clear. This should not be happening. We have all the tools to prevent transmission and save lives and we continue to call on all countries to use those tools.

00:03:30

Yesterday we added another new tool with the emergency use listing of Covaxin, the eighth vaccine to receive WHO validation for safety, efficacy and quality. Emergency use listing contributes to vaccine equity by enabling countries to expedite their own regulatory approval to import and roll out vaccines.

We encourage all vaccine manufacturers who have not yet received emergency use listing to contact WHO to discuss how to accelerate the process through rolling submissions. We continue to call on manufacturers of vaccines that already have WHO emergency use listing to prioritise COVAX, not shareholder profit.

We continue to hear excuses about why low-income countries have only received 0.4% of the world's vaccines. One is that low-income countries can't absorb vaccines. That's not true. With the exception of a few fragile, conflict-affected and vulnerable countries most low-income countries are ready to go.

The problem is simply that they cannot get the vaccines. I repeat, they cannot get the vaccines. Another excuse from manufacturers is that low-income countries have not placed orders for vaccines. Most low-income countries are relying on COVAX, which has the money and the contracts to buy vaccines on their behalf but manufacturers have not played their part.

00:05:19

We still don't know when the manufacturers will deliver. We continue to call on all manufacturers to prioritise their contracts with COVAX and the Africa Vaccines Acquisition trust or AVAT. No more vaccines should go to countries that have already vaccinated more than 40% of their population until COVAX has the vaccines it needs to help other countries get there too.

No more boosters should be administered except to immunocompromised people. Most countries with high vaccine coverage continue to ignore our call for a global moratorium on boosters at the expense of health workers and vulnerable groups in low-income countries who are still waiting for the first dose.

We cannot end the pandemic without vaccines but vaccines alone will not end the pandemic. Vaccines do not replace the need for public health and social measures, they complement them. Physical distancing, avoiding crowded spaces, masks, ventilation, hand hygiene and other effective public health measures remain important in every country.

00:06:39

Every country must continue to adjust and adapt its strategy. To support countries to do that WHO has developed a tool called the intra-action review which countries can use to evaluate what's working and what's not.

More than 100 intra-action reviews have now been conducted by 68 countries. Several countries have conducted multiple reviews, including South Africa which has done ten, making it a central component of its response.

Several key lessons emerge from these reviews. The need for strong and active national leadership at the highest levels, flexibility and adaptability by adjusting and repurposing existing systems, guidelines and resources, multi-sectoral co-operation and in the case of vaccine roll-out the need for adequate cold-chain capacity and real-tie monitoring of vaccine stock.

Ending the pandemic as rapidly as possible must remain the central focus for every country. At the same time we owe it to those who have lost their lives to this virus to learn the lessons it's teaching us and take whatever action is necessary to prevent a future disaster on this scale.

00:08:06

The world was not prepared for COVID-19 and we knew we were not prepared. In 2018 WHO and the World Bank formed the Global Preparedness Monitoring Board, the GPMB, an independent panel of experts to identify gaps in the world's defences and make recommendations to how to close them.

We did not know then when the next global crisis would arise or what it would be but we know that disease X would come eventually. The GPMB published its first report in September 2019, just months before the pandemic hit. It identified many of the vulnerabilities that COVID-19 had exposed and exploited.

The lack of political leadership and commitment, the lack of health system readiness, the lack of trust with communities and the lack of international co-operation.

The second GPMB report, released in the middle of the pandemic last year, incorporated hard-won insights with calls for predictable and sustained financing, equitable access for vaccines and other life-saving tools and global governance for preparedness.

00:09:30

The GPMB published its third report last week. Instead of making more recommendations the GPMB is calling the world to act on the recommendations it has already made, which are more relevant now than before the pandemic but on which there remains little action.

We have no shortage of reports, reviews and recommendations but we have a shortage of action. It's clear what needs to happen. Better governance for global health security, including a binding treaty on pandemic preparedness and response, better financing to strengthen the capacities of all countries, especially the most vulnerable.

Better systems and tools to prepare for, prevent, detect and respond rapidly to outbreaks with epidemic or pandemic potential and a strengthened, empowered and sustainably financed WHO at the centre of the global health architecture.

To say more about its latest report I'm delighted to welcome my friend and brother, Mr Elhadj As Sy, the GPMB Co-Chair and the former Secretary-General of the International Federation of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies. As Sy, thank you for your leadership and you have the floor.

00:11:10

EAS        Thank you. Thank you very much, my brother. I think I could build on one of the very powerful sentences that you just used. We need action. We already know what we need to do. What we need is action and action now because the window of opportunity is closing by the day.

So we need that urgency and we need ambition. You're absolutely right. Report after report - what we predicted happened and we were congratulated for being right and those are moments when it is not nice to be right.

What is it that we know, what is going to happen? We were smart enough to predict it and not smart enough to take the action required, from preventing the outbreaks from becoming pandemics, from preventing shocks becoming disasters.

You mentioned the numbers, 17 million COVID-related deaths. Millions of people have lost their lives. Millions more are without parents or grandparents. To put it as we feel in the region where I am now, let me just say bluntly, it is deeply shameful. We should grieve, we should be angry because millions of deaths are neither normal nor acceptable and these are just numbers that we're quoting.

00:12:47

We forget that behind each unit of these numbers there is a face, there is a human being, there is a story, a story of a parent, of a child, of a friend, of a colleague. Many of them also we have lost ourselves, being on the front line and trying to respond to this challenge.

The rift between the haves and the have-nots is growing and you're right, it's not just vaccine equity that should be front and centre. It is also a matter of how low-income countries are able to implement public health measures within their communities and fragile economies to keep people safe.

We are indeed facing extraordinary challenges and the world is clamouring for solutions yet global leadership continues to step back and shy away from what needs to be done. We've seen it happen once again with the recent G20 leaders' statement.

Honestly, we had hoped for firm financial commitments to fully fund global efforts to curb the pandemic. We had hoped for an agreement to establish the financing mechanism that would provide predictable financing at the scale required to prevent future pandemics.

00:14:13

But what we got was a commitment to keep talking about it. We shouldn't be surprised. The COVID-19 pandemic has exposed a world that is unequal, divided, in many instances unaccountable. Through the pandemic polarisation, geopolitical conflicts, nationalism and skepticism of multilateralism have meant that many countries are raising the drawbridge rather than seeking global solutions.

We shouldn't be surprised but we should be dismayed and we must demand more. We need to see signs that political leaders are willing to work together, all political leaders, and take the bold steps that are urgently needed to protect the one and only planet we share as well as the one and only humanity we share.

In our report we have challenged world leader to take five steps, only five, that would demonstrate their commitments to change and how they will go about it urgently, inclusively and equitably, five simple steps over the next eight weeks that will give a clear signal to the world that they agree on what needs to be done and are very serious about doing it.

00:15:41

Let me spell them out. First, agree at the November 2021 special session of the World Health Assembly on the need to adopt an international agreement on pandemic preparedness and response and establish a process for taking forward negotiations.

Second, agree to convene a summit of heads of state and government on pandemic preparedness and response together with other stakeholders and set in motion a preparatory process for this summit.

I emphasise here, together with other stakeholders because it's been a multidimensional problem that will require a multisectoral approach and solution.

Third, agree to a significant increase in WHO-assessed contributions in order to adequately and sustainably finance the organisation's essential functions and core capacities. Year in and year out WHO has been weakened by less financing, less authority yet if things are not working the fingers are being pointed towards WHO. That has to change.

Fourth, agree to establish a new financial intermediary fund for pandemic preparedness and response. And finally, develop terms of reference for design of an end-to-end mechanism for research, development and equitable access to common good.

00:17:21

Is there a hope? Yes. After years of inaction we are finally seeing some traction on climate change. World leaders gathered in Glasgow this week at COP26 are taking political responsibility and making commitments for change. The current political context is challenging but there are some signs of progress.

Pandemic preparedness and response should be a simpler problem in comparison so why is it so difficult to get world leaders in a room to agree on the bold solutions required? If COVID-19 is not the catalyst for change what will it be?

It is easy to be cynical today and think that nothing can change, that we are forever condemned to repeat a cycle of panic, apathy and neglect but we must reject pessimism and recognise our common humanity and growing interdependence.

We must recognise that we live in a shared world with shared risk and shared responsibilities. The solutions must match the magnitude of need to bring this pandemic to an end and to prepare for the next one and even better prepare for the next one.

00:18:42

We must support those individuals and organisations working tirelessly to end this epidemic, many of them or some of the most important of them gathered in this room today. We're indebted to you, my brother, Dr Tedros, and to the WHO for the leadership you continue to show in working towards the global health ecosystems that serve everyone everywhere.

That is the spirit in which this report has been published and more than a report, it should be instantly raising action and we continue our mobilisation in a frame of an independent framework to see things happening, action taken and accountability shown. Thank you very much.

TAG        Thank you. Thank you very much, my brother, As Sy. I will quote you from what you said. If COVID is not the catalyst for change, what could it be? That's really true. Thank you for your clear call to action and we can only hope that the international community acts on that call.

As you said, we know what needs to happen. What we need now is action, urgency and ambition. Thank you so much again for your leadership. Tarik, back to you.

TJ           Thank you, Dr Tedros. Thank you, Mr As Sy. Mr As Sy will be with us throughout this press conference and will be available to answer some of your questions. With this we will open the floor for questions from journalists who are online and we will start immediately with Nina Larson from AFP. Nina.

NI           Hi. Thank you very much for taking my question. As you've mentioned, the world this week passed the devastating milestone of five million officially registered COVID deaths since the start of the pandemic and at the same time we're seeing case numbers rising in many places, including Europe which now appears to be the epicentre of the pandemic again, as Dr [Unclear] said today.

As we approach the end of the year I was wondering if you cold say how you expect this pandemic to evolve in 2022, if you think there's any chance at all the pandemic could be declared over next year or are we instead looking at a worsening, possibly even a doubling of this death toll? Thank you.

MK         Thanks very much for the question. I will begin and I'm sure others may want to come in. I just hope that marking this tragic milestone doesn't become just that, that it's just another number that we reach. I don't think the world has even begun to grieve this many deaths and we know it's far, far higher and every single one of us on the planet has been impacted by this pandemic.

00:21:51

The trajectory of this pandemic is in our hands, it has always been in our hands and your question about what will happen into 2022 remains up to us. Is there a possibility where we can reach a state where we have gained control over transmission in 2022? Absolutely.

Is there the possibility that we can remove the death, the severe hospitalisations and death in 2022? Absolutely. We could have done that already but we haven't and collectively as individuals, as leaders we have to take stock of that and make a choice and make conscious choices every day of how we're going to address that.

You ask about 2022 and it's a good question, we get that question a lot but right now we are seeing increases where we shouldn't be. You mention Europe. There's been a more than 55% increase in cases over the last four weeks in Europe, where there's ample supply of vaccines, where there's ample supply of tools.

00:23:05

We mentioned grieving and being angry and being frustrated. What we need to see is that anger, that emotion turn into action. We need actions that protect ourselves, that protect our loved ones from infection, from the spread.

We need leaders to provide communities with consistent, accurate information to enable communities to keep themselves safe and their loved ones safe, to invest in systems and surge those systems for surveillance, for testing, to support our health workers.

It's happening now. We can't make these changes once this pandemic is over to prepare for the next one. One of the themes of today is these inter-action reviews and many countries have used this to assess where they are and to make necessary changes and that is something we advise to countries, to regularly assess the epi situation, the severity of the situation I their country and the capacities that they have and to course-correct where needed.

This is a strength, this is not a weakness of countries so the question is not what we do in 2022, it's what we do right now and we have the opportunity and we have to do this now. How many more people need to die, how many more countries need to be put into severe situations again before we take action?

00:24:27

So everyone that's watching this, whether you're an individual, whether you're a journalist - and thank you for putting out good information through your networks - leaders, what will you do today?

TJ           Mr Elhadj As Sy, would you like to add something on this particular question on the prospects?

EAS        [Inaudible] not. Just to reinforce, I think Dr Maria Van Kerkhove said it very nicely. The anger and the emotion should not paralyse us. It should lead to passion and that is the reaction that we all are hoping for. Let's get inspiration, I think, from the hundreds of thousands of people on the front line who are confronted with these challenges on a daily basis and doing their best to alleviate human suffering and to save lives.

Let us think often of those who have hosted the virus in their own bodies, including myself, who were very, very sick and knowing what it means to have healthcare workers on your side and to know how oxygen tastes, to save your life.

00:25:51

All the things that we're talking about are not abstract, all these things we are talking about are realities on a day-to-day... that we are all facing and confronting. So again we will continue to express this anger, continue to express these emotions.

But emotion means to be in motion, to be in action and that is the partnership that we're calling for and will continue to do so every day.

TJ           Thank you very much, Mr As Sy. We will go now to the next question, Shoko Koyama from Japanese broadcaster NHK. Shoko, the floor is yours.

SH          Hi, Tarik. Can you hear me?

TJ           Yes.

SH          Nice to see you again. Regarding Covaxin, for which WHO issued an emergency use listing yesterday, I was following the social live Q&A yesterday and heard the explanation of which strain has been used. I understood it is closer to the original strain but not the delta strain but didn't quite understand how WHO considers the effectiveness towards variants.

00:27:02

Was it found to have 78% efficacy against COVID-19 of any severity including delta variant?

My second question, if I may. What impact do you consider this approval gives to increase the capacity of distribution of the COVAX facility? Thank you.

TJ           Thank you. Maybe Dr Swaminathan will start and also Dr Rogerio can add.

SS          Yes, I can start. I'm sure Dr Gaspar will comment. Yes, as you heard, the WHO did provide emergency use listing yesterday to Covaxin. That's the latest and this process is ongoing. We have a rolling submission. The committee looks at efficacy and safety data from all of the clinical trials and also post-marketing surveillance studies as well as the manufacturing itself, the quality of the manufacturing.

SAGE, which is the independent strategic advisory group of experts on immunisation, also looks very carefully at the clinical trial data. So what was said was that this vaccine, the Covaxin, in its trial of about 25,000 people, the phase three trial of adults over 18 years, had an efficacy of about 78% against symptomatic infection.

00:28:30

At the time that the trial was being done in India there was a lot of delta. It was around the time that the delta virus was becoming the predominant virus so in the trial when they did the genotyping of the infected participants they had people with delta infection.

They also had people with previous variants like alpha so when they looked at the subgroup of delta infection they found that it also had a fairly good efficacy of close to 70%, I think it was around 68%.

That's why the clinical trial data actually shows overall efficacy of 78%, a higher efficacy against severe disease, close to 90% but the number of cases was less so that's why the confidence intervals are quite wide.

They also were able to give an estimate of the efficacy against the delta variant because some of the trials that were done for other vaccines were done at a time when the delta was not the predominant variant and then subsequent studies had to be done to find out the efficacy against a different variant.

So it's always good to have that information as well from the manufacturers. What emergency use listing provides is a couple of things. One is that it enables countries' regulatory agencies to approve very quickly based on the WHO EUL because many countries go by the WHO EUL or pre-qualification.

Therefore it provides opportunities for expanded use and access of this product and it's basically a stamp of safety, efficacy, quality and hopefully it also enables people easier travel as many countries are looking at vaccination certificates even though the WHO continues to say that vaccine certificates should not be the exclusive criterion for travel entry.

Rogerio might want to add.

RG         Thank you, Soumya. Just to complement - because I think you already covered part of the question - on the procedure for approval which was in the media with several questions in the weeks before this one.

Now that the process is completed we can go to the numbers and to the facts as we normally wish to do so the approval of the eight vaccines that were EULed since the beginning varied between 40 and 165 days.

00:31:07

Specifically Covaxin, the Bharat vaccine was submitted on 9th July and approved on 3rd November which means 120 days on the calendar.

But if you consider the relevant data that was submitted by the end of July it's closer to 90 days in terms of the process of approval. I hope these numbers, which are transparent and on the website of WHO, as we normally do every week, put an end to a number of questions that we have seen in the previous weeks. Thank you.

TJ           Many thanks. Now we will go to the next question. That's Donato Mancini from the Financial Times. Donato.

DO         Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for taking my question.

TJ           Donato, can you just speak a bit louder?

DO         Hi, sorry. I know you've been asked about the trajectory of the pandemic in 2022 but what is your assessment of the situation in Europe currently with cases rising, especially in Eastern Europe and Benelux, where new restrictions are being imposed, among other places? Thank you so much.

00:32:18

MK         I can begin. I think, as we are seeing cases and deaths increase across large parts of Europe - it's not just in Eastern Europe but in many other countries as well - our recommendations are really to use the tools that you have, to act fast, to use public health and social measures in addition to increasing vaccination coverage.

And to tailor the response as locally as possible, understanding what the situation is because it is diverse and it's not the same. We don't give prescriptive information or advice because the situation is so dynamic and capacities are also different.

So our recommendation is to assess where you are with the epi but when you're looking at cases what we do see is that in countries that have access to vaccine the vaccines are incredibly effective against hospitalisations and against deaths.

So you may see case numbers increasing but the deaths are not increasing at the same rate. The fact that there still are people that are dying needs to also be addressed of course and part of this is ensuring we have adequate vaccination coverage in all countries of those who are most at risk, people with underlying conditions, those who are over the age of 60 and critically our front-line workers.

00:33:36

But in addition to that, even if you are vaccinated, to continue with the public health and social measures, continue to wear a mask, a well-fitting mask over your nose and mouth. Mask supplies are ample now and this is perhaps an inconvenience for some but this is one of the proven measures that can limit the spread in addition to physician distancing, avoiding crowds, working from home as much as you can - not everybody has that luxury - and for leaders to really invest in surveillance and build up those capacities and systems right now.

It's about a combination approach, it's not just vaccines, it's vaccines and, not vaccines only. So what we need for countries to do is to really stay the course - you've heard us say that before - and what that means is to apply a number of measures.

Some people like the Swiss cheese analogy of building and layering upon and adjusting that and tailoring as needed and we're here to support. We support through our regional offices, through our country offices to help with supply if necessary, to ensure that there's adequate clinical care and we will continue to do that.

00:34:53

TJ           Many thanks, Dr Van Kerkhove. We go to the next question, Gunila Van Hall from Svenska Dagbladet. Gunila, you have the floor.

GU         Yes, can you hear me?

TJ           Very well.

GU         Thanks for taking my question. It is about Europe and the situation, cases going up and Europe is now again, we heard today, the epicentre of the pandemic. At the same time, in the same week we have the G20 in Rome, we have the climate summit in Glasgow with 30,000 participants.

How wise is this, how advisable is it to have big international meetings in person when we have this situation especially in Europe right now? Thanks.

MR         I think both of those gatherings that you mentioned have very strict protocols in place in terms of the status that the participants have had to demonstrate before attending those conferences.

00:35:54

We've been supporting many mass gatherings over the last two years in trying to ensure that we can continue to gather safely in reduced numbers, virtually and increasingly face-to-face.

I do think though that, in referring back to what Maria has spoken about, the reality for Europe in general is that we've had that again and we're two years into this but we seem to be constantly surprised by the simple behaviour of viral pathogens.

We have come out of the summer period with increased mixing, increased mobility, increased gatherings, a lot of restrictions have been reduced. The onus has been put back onto individuals to continue individual risk management with little support from the governments in being able to continue doing that.

Temperatures have dropped, the weather has disimproved and people are moving back inside and they're doing that in two contexts, in the context of countries that have relatively or very high vaccination levels in vulnerable groups but transmission has been transferred into younger age groups so you have intense transmission without necessarily a huge increase in hospitalisations and death.

00:37:20

Then you have other scenarios in which there's been relatively low vaccine uptake in some countries and they're really facing into a very difficult situation because they have suboptimal vaccine coverage and there are countries in Europe who have this.

There may be plenty vaccine available but uptake of vaccine has not been equal and uptake of vaccine particularly amongst highly vulnerable groups. So when you look at coverage of vaccination in any country and say it's 60%, for me I want to know which, who's covered.

If you've got 95 or 99% of people over 65 with underlying conditions covered then clearly you're not going to have the same risk. If half of your vulnerable population are still not covered with vaccine then they remain extremely vulnerable in a context of increasing intensity of transmission.

The other factor, I think, that's not really being considered is health systems have already been weakened by this massive effort over the last 22 months. Health workers are exhausted, many health workers are leaving the profession and hospitals around Europe were just getting back with doing elective work and the normal work and now we're seeing country after country having to switch back to cancelling elective surgery or non-essential medical interventions and having to reprogramme back to shoring up their intensive care and their high-support care facilities.

This is again putting a lot of pressure back on health workers so even where you're not seeing the same increases in hospitalisations as we saw earlier in the year a smaller number of cases is placing an even greater burden on the system because the systems are tired, the people in the system are tired.

They're still fighting very hard but it's very hard for them to be able to react in the same way. It is very difficult to sustain the kind of effort that's needed on everyone's part, on the part of health workers, on the part of communities, on the part of government.

There's exhaustion and exhaustion is leading to complacency and complacency is leading to gaps in our system, gaps in testing, gaps in clinical management, gaps in vaccination.

00:39:38

It is through those gaps that we see transmission, it is through those gaps that we see the hospitalisations and the deaths and we need to close the gaps. We need to close the gap in vaccination, we need to close the gap in protected, safe, well-rested health workers, we need to close the gap in protecting ourselves through public health measures, as Maria has said, wearing masks and being cautious.

Just because you're vaccinated does not mean you're perfectly protected against every outcome in COVID-19 and the numbers of deaths are also rising in other regions and cases are rising in other regions. It's very important to reflect that Europe represents over half of the global cases in the last week but that trend can turn. Look what can happen.

We're all epidemiologists now. We only have to look at the roller-coaster epidemiologic curve to know that when you're coming down the mountain you're usually about to go back up another one and the fact that Europe is climbing that mountain again should really stand everybody up around the world and say, what are we going to do?

Because Europe does have the capacity and European countries have the capacity, they have the vaccine access, they have the money, they have the systems in place that they can react. Many other regions don't necessarily have those capacities in place.

So I think it's a warning shot for the world to see what's happening in Europe despite the availability of vaccination and I think we all have to double down and recommit ourselves to doing everything we can to be the last person in the chain of transmission.

That's going to mean, I think, increased use of, for example, things like antigen testing and expanded... changing the way... We were discussing this this morning. Sometimes to stay the course you have to change course and at the moment we seem to be hell-bent on a course that says, the pandemic is over and we just need to vaccinate a few more people and this will all be over. That is not the case.

Maria spoke to this. Each and every country now needs to look at its strategic preparedness and response plan for this pandemic. It needs to look at the gaps in the system that exist right now and it needs to plug those holes in their response.

00:42:02

Some countries are going to need a lot of assistance with that. Many European countries are well able to deal with that and I know governments don't want to disappoint their populations by going backwards and there's this perception that we're moving forwards now towards the end of the pandemic and any step backwards is a retrograde step.

I think every country now needs to look at its epidemiology, look at protecting its health workforce or its health system and ensure that it can get through the next few months without systems going into collapse again.

That will require in many countries a course correction and a real focus on ensuring that every single vulnerable person has had full vaccination.

TJ           Thank you, Dr Ryan. Next question comes from Mexico, [Unclear] Mexico and we have Manuel Lino with us online. Manuel, could you please unmute yourself and ask your question.

MA         Yes, thank you very much. My question is, I read an article in the BMJ that says that WHO is needed now more than ever but is handcuffed by a lack of funds and structure that leaves it vulnerable to politics. These problems can be fixed, says the author, and must be urgently. Could you share some thoughts on this statement?

00:43:33

TJ           Thank you. Maybe Mr As Sy could start as he mentioned funding and then we will come back to the room here. Mr As Sy.

EAS        Yes, I personally have witnessed in my professional lifetime that when we were confronted with a huge HIV epidemic not enough was invested in WHO but we created UNAIDS and I worked for UNAIDS.

I also remember very well after [unclear] in 2001 when we needed to invest more on STB and malaria, we did not invest more in WHO but we created the Global Funds.

I also witnessed when GAVI was created, when we needed to do more on immunisation and most recently we saw the creation of stop TB partnership, roll back malaria partnership. Maybe there's a good intention behind all of that, to call for a multi-stakeholder, multi-sectoral response to these challenges that we see.

But at the end of the day if any of those sectors did not deliver and at the end of the day we had some problems and issues, at the country level or at the local level fingers have been pointed at WHO.

00:45:05

So when we call for greater funding for WHO, more support, more accountability and more authority this is not a favour that we're doing to WHO. This is because we care about global health and we care about the support that is required and that needs to be given now to countries.

We believe that a much stronger-funded WHO with greater authority out of the geopolitics positioning will be the way to go and that can also make the organisation more accountable and then we can all be more demanding vis a vis the organisation.

We only hope now that with this current crisis we do not repeat the same, if not mistakes but the common practices but again let's try to see outside of WHO what we can do and then continue to blame WHO if things are not working.

So we strongly believe that a stronger WHO, a fully funded WHO with greater authority that comes with greater accountability is something that is required now and urgently.

MR         I might just add to As Sy's comments. Again, we speak about WHO as the World Health Organization. Again some people imagine that as a secretariat building in Geneva, Switzerland.

00:46:45

The World Health Organization is effectively the combination of 194 member states around the world who come together to agree on what priorities should be for health and what policies should be for health.

It is our work as a secretariat under the leadership of Dr Tedros to implement those policies and implement the will of countries in terms of what countries consider to be the priorities in terms of health.

In my view the way we're dealing with our transnational health issues at the moment is we're trying to deal with a global threat using individualised solutions. I was on a foresight roundtable this morning and Professor Alice Roberts, who many of you will know, was on that roundtable. She's a medical anthropologist and communicator and said that we're effectively operating a mediaeval feudal system where each country can build its own castle and pull up the drawbridge and that represents safety.

00:47:54

That concept may have worked in mediaeval times. It doesn't work in the face of a globalised viral pathogen and it doesn't work when we talk about other issues in healthcare like HIV or TB or malaria. We need collective solutions, we need transnational and what would be called multilateral solutions.

We need agreement at a global level on what is to be done to protect the health of the world's population, health for all. You can't deliver health for all unless you prioritise health for all and when we talk then about putting more money into health it's not about putting more money into WHO or more funding into WHO.

It's about putting more funding into healthcare systems, into public health systems, into protecting health at local, community, national and global level. WHO can do its part but the main investment here - and I'm sure Dr Tedros would speak to this - is investing in universal health coverage, investing in public health systems at national level.

Epidemics and pandemics begin and end in communities. The deaths we've seen in COVID have primarily been due to unmanaged underlying health conditions that people have borne for years and years without proper access to healthcare, be it for financial reasons, ethnic reasons, many other reasons.

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So yes, there needs to be a massive scale-up in funding in the space of health. Health is not a cost, health is an investment and no more than with climate change it cannot be addressed through single-country responses. It can only be addressed when we all come together and invest in health and health for all.

In that sense, yes, I would agree that I see clearly WHO has a huge role to play in that but the real gap here is investment in health, in healthcare systems and in health protection.

TJ           Many thanks, Dr Ryan and Mr As Sy. We have time for one, maximum two more questions. We also want to hear at the end from Dr Liviu Adrescu on the interactive exercises on preparedness. Let's go to John Zaracostas from the Lancet. John.

JO          Yes, good afternoon on a cloudy Geneva day. My question is to some of the participants on the panel and in particular Mr Elhadj. You mentioned you would like to see an international instrument and some guidance going forward on the negotiations and Dr Tedros also mentioned that.

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Can you please elaborate a little bit and make the case why it's so important, given you had the International Health Regulations, negotiated over five years and ignored in the first few months of the pandemic?

So can you please make the case and since Mr Elhadj is there I'd love his views also on the epidemic of indifference right now worldwide on the catastrophic food insecurity in Madagascar, in Yemen, in Afghanistan?

TJ           Thank you, John. Mr As Sy.

EAS        Thank you very much. Let me go back to the initial recommendations that were made that were based on the consultation of really what is lacking. We realised there are some many instruments already existing. They cover certain areas and they work well for that purpose.

When we are now facing a pandemic of unprecedented magnitude we will need responses and instruments at the same level and same scale, not only for this pandemic but for similar cases that we will be confronting in the future and many like myself believe that it is not a question of if, it is only a question of when.

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Now we have already said that the world is in crisis, we said that the world is fragmented, we said there is a lack of leadership, we said there is a lack of accountability. How can we make sure that all those lacks that we're talking about can be remedied and that we find systems and framework that are bringing people together for action, for monitoring and for holding each other accountable?

That is the reason why we are supporting pretty much that instrument, be it the conventions, be it the treaty, that will be defining rules and responsibilities of countries and it includes a high-level monitoring framework of member states at the highest level to make sure that we hold each other accountable.

If that is not defined in a form of a treaty that commits the states to do something then you don't have the basis upon which that accountability can also be exercised and that is the reason why we're supporting it.

There are many activities already going on, many negotiations, many discussions. This is not in lieu of the IHR, this is not a substitution but it is an instrument that is much more transversal, which we believe will also reflect the multi-sectoral, multi-dimensional issue of the kind of problems that we are talking about.

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A parallel discussion on the IHR is certainly happening to draw lessons from what has been learnt so far and further strengthening it. We will be living in a world that is not going to be a matter of either/or or how these different instruments will be complementing each other and taking it to another scale.

The issue that you are mentioning in Yemen, in Madagascar and others, all that again has been revealed now by COVID-19 and when we talk about strong leadership, active citizenship, common humanity, finding solutions to the problems of the people on the ground, all that comes together.

I think that is the reason why I was starting by saying, an outbreak should not be a pandemic, a shock and a hazard should not be a disaster. That could apply for food security, that could apply for the climate, that could apply also for epidemics.

I think that is that common platform of leadership and accountability that is required and it is pretty much frustrated by the COVID-19 pandemic.

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TJ           Many thanks, Mr As Sy. Maybe as we are nearing the hour of this press briefing we could give the floor to Dr Liviu Adrescu to tell us more about those inter-action reviews that have been talking place in a number of countries that have been mentioned in our opening remarks. Dr Adrescu.

LI           Thank you. Thank you, Tarik. Many speakers called for course corrections, course adjustment and global action and while perhaps it is difficult to prompt these actions at the global level, at the local level and subnational level intra-action reviews do exactly that.

They identify what needs to be corrected in a particular locality and, as Dr General mentioned, 100 intra-action reviews have been done at country levels and many countries found value in them and are repeating them - ten intra-action reviews in South Africa, many intra-action reviews in New Zealand and many other countries.

Countries see value in targeted intra-action reviews. They're looking at their vaccination effort, they're looking at their crisis communication effort. So I want to also commend many countries that are choosing to publish their intra-action reports on their government portals. This promotes transparency, accountability and sharing of their strengths and challenges with their populations and with their neighbours. Thank you.

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TJ           Thank you, Dr Adrescu. Just to let everyone know, we have been also joined by Dr Landry Majugane [?], who works with Dr Adrescu. in country simulation exercises and reviews. I don't know if Dr Landry would like to add something on this topic.

LA          Yes, thank you so much for this opportunity. It's just again to reiterate the need for continuous learning because it's only when we are learning and we are able to identify where the gaps are and course-correct and apply those lessons learned, this is the best way we can really address this pandemic as quickly as possible.

I believe intra-action review can play a critical role in that and I really urge countries... As Dr Maria Van Kerkhove mentioned on several occasions, we really need to learn and apply the critical lessons learned as we move forward.

TJ           Many thanks, Dr Landry. Maybe before I give the floor to Dr Tedros, Dr Ryan would like to add something.

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MR         Just on the issue of instruments and treaties, I'm sure people are aware of this but the World Health Assembly was convened at the end of this month with Dr Tedros for only the second time in its history in an extraordinary meeting to consider one issue, one agenda item and one agenda item only and that is the need for and the merits of concluding a new agreement or framework treaty, convention that would allow the world to react collectively in preparedness and response to the next pandemic.

That will be led by our member states, as I said in my previous intervention and it's going to be a very important convening of all the member states of WHO with the Director-General to consider that very question.

I think it's a very, very important moment in the history of global public health and, as the Director-General has said before, a generational moment to consider the future of pandemic preparedness and response.

TJ           Thank you, Dr Ryan. I will just go back to Mr Elhadj As Sy for any final remarks before we give the floor to Dr Tedros.

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EAS        Thank you very much. Just one final remark again to thank WHO and the World Bank for convening the GPMB and to stress again the importance of an independent monitoring framework, moving ahead with all these negotiations going on, all those ideas on the table including a [unclear] connection and again monitoring, calling for action, incentivising for action and holding people accountable.

So the GPMB is committed to that and will be looking forward to continuing working with with all of you in that trigger. Thank you very much.

TJ           Thank you very much for your participation and very strong messages today, Mr As Sy. With this we will conclude the press briefing. The audio file will be sent shortly and the transcript will be available tomorrow. The last floor is as always for Dr Tedros.

TAG        Thank you. Thank you, Tarik. I think it was a very important presser and thank you, As Sy, for joining us. Your message was very clear. We know what to do. Now it's time for action. I think that would be the best message to take from today's presser and move forward to take action, the immediate thing being vaccination.

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As you know, we have set a 40% target for vaccination for each and every country by the end of this year and that's possible so I would like to use this opportunity to call on those who can afford to share and also supporting any other way and also co-operation from the manufacturers and to achieve the 40% target.

So I think that's a clear goal and where our action should be focused, among other things. Of course the long term is key. While fighting the pandemic now we need to prepare for the long term and that's why, as Mike said, we are now going to have a special session of the World Health Assembly at the end of this month to discuss the need for a pandemic treaty.

This pandemic has been really unprecedented and I will again quote As Sy, if this COVID pandemic cannot be a catalyst for change it's very difficult to understand what could be a catalyst. That's why the treaty, the discussion or the assembly to discuss the treaty is very timely, very crucial and I hope the world will agree to have a treaty or agreement that can help us to fight the next pandemic in a better way.

So thank you so much again to As Sy for your leadership and thank you also to the media for joining us today and see you next time.

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